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Appendix
1 - Response to Comments on the Environmental
Assesment for the Fort Valley Project

We
thank everyone who commented on this project. It has
been a long involved process that has brought many individuals,
groups and agencies together of widely differing opinions
and values. In numerous responses we have indicated
sections in the Environmental Assessment (EA) where
there are already existing discussions that respond
to the comment. Rather than repeat the text, we have
just indicated where the commenter could read the response
in a document they already have. For other responses,
the commenter did not supply adequate information for
us to respond in detail. We have done our best to respond
to those comments. Again we want to thank you for your
comments throughout this adaptive and lengthy process.
Without them we could not have ended up with such a
well-crafted set of potential treatments.

36
CFR Part 215.6 Response to comments received on proposed
actions.
(a)
Comment Period. The Responsible official shall
accept comments on a proposed action subject to 215.3
for 30 days following the date of publication of the
notice for public comment. Both oral and written comments
shall be accepted. The 30-day period for comment begins
on the first day after publication of notice. Saturdays,
Sundays, and Federal holidays are included in computing
all time periods in this section; however, when the
comment period ends on a Saturday, Sunday, or Federal
holiday the comment period shall be extended to the
close of business of the next Federal working day.
The
Comment Period for the Fort Valley Ecosystem Restoration
Project began with publication on the notice in the
Arizona Daily Sun on July 19, 2000. The Public comment
period ended on August 18, 2000.
(b)
Submission. Persons expressing an interest or
submitting comments to the Responsible Official in response
to a notice published or provided pursuant to 215.5
shall provide the following information which become
a matter of public record:
(1)
Name, address, an (if possible) telephone number;
(2) Title of the document(s) on which comment is being
submitted; and
(3) Specific facts or comments along with supporting
reasons that the person believes the Responsible Official
should consider in reaching a decision.
One
comment received has not provided an address (Charles
Frickel, Durango is all that is provided, however the
document was faxed from SWFA and a copy of this document
will be sent to SWFA).
(c)
Timeliness. It is the responsibility of persons
providing comments to submit them by the close of the
comment period.
A
single comment from Lea Parker emailed on 8/21/2000
missed the deadline for comments.
(1)
When comments are received, the Responsible Official
shall clearly identify the date of receipt.
(2) The Responsible Official must consider all written
comments post marked or facsimile imprinted by the close
of business on the 30th day following publication of
the notice and all oral comments received by the close
of business on the 30th day following publication of
the notice.
(d)
The Responsible Official shall address comments received
from the public during the comment period in an appendix
to the environmental assessment.
(e)
Notes of oral comments received in response to a notice
for public comment pursuant to 215.5 shall be placed
in the files and addressed pursuant to paragraph (d)
of this section.

This
appendix addresses all comments received within the
30-day comment period provided for the public. No oral
comments were received. The following table lists the
comments received. Click a Project Record number to
veiw responses:
| Person |
Affiliation |
Date
Recieved |
Project
Record
Doc # |
| Mark
Giesecke |
|
July
25, 2000 |
342a |
| D.W.
Frerichs, MD |
|
July
24, 2000 |
342b |
| Raymond
Rice |
|
July
24, 2000 |
342c |
| Thomas
D. George |
|
July
24, 2000 |
342d |
| Jim
Wheeler |
Flagstaff
Fire Dept. |
August
4, 2000 |
342e |
| Jimmie
R. Nunn |
|
August
8, 2000 |
342f |
| H.B.
Smith |
|
August
8, 2000 |
342g |
| David
C. Maurer |
Flagstaff
Chamber of Commerce |
August
11, 2000 |
342h |
| Sarah
B. Petras |
|
August
9, 2000 |
342i |
| Peter
Fule' |
|
August
15, 2000 |
342j |
| Bruce
Johnson |
|
August
16, 2000 |
342k |
| Melissa
Savage |
UCLA |
August
17, 2000 |
342l |
| Mike
Mannina |
|
August
15, 2000 |
342m |
| Robert
A. Witzeman M.D. |
Maricopa
Audubon Society |
August
16, 2000 |
342n |
| Stacey
Boender |
|
August
17, 2000 |
342o |
| Rachel
Kondor |
|
August
17, 2000 |
342p |
| Leigh
J. Kuwanwisiwma |
The
Hopi Tribe |
August
17, 2000 |
342q |
| Joel
Wolfson |
|
August
17, 2000 |
342r |
| Dr.
Roger W. Axford |
|
August
17, 2000 |
342s |
| Jeffrey
D. Myers |
Central
New Mexico Audubon Society |
August
17, 2000 |
342t |
| Richard
and Gail Potts |
|
August
17, 2000 |
342u |
| Robin
A. Craig |
|
August
17, 2000 |
342v |
| E.M.
Swartz |
|
August
18, 2000 |
342w |
| Sandra
Bahr |
|
August
18, 2000 |
342x |
| Charles
Frickel |
|
August
18, 2000 |
342y |
| Roxanne
George |
Southwest
Forest Alliance or FAN |
August
18, 2000 |
342z |
| Martos
Hoffman, Brian Nowicki, Sharon Galbreath, Roxanne
George |
Southwest
Forest Alliance, Sierra Club and Flagstaff Activist
Network |
August
18, 2000 |
342aa |
| Taylor
McKinnon |
Grand
Canyon Trust |
August
18, 2000 |
342bb |
| Uncle
Don B. Fanning |
|
August
18, 2000 |
342cc |
| John
Talberth |
Forest
Conservation Council, National Forest Protection
Alliance, Native Forest Council, John Muir Project
and the Lands Council |
August
18, 2000 |
342dd |
| Brian
Segee |
Forest
Watch Coordinator |
August
18, 2000 |
342ee |
| Rex
Wahl |
Forest
Guardians |
August
18, 2000 |
342ff |
| Stephen
Canning |
|
August
18, 2000 |
342gg |
| Lea
J. Parker |
|
July
25, 2000 |
342hh |
In
total 31 groups or persons commented on the Environmental
Assessment for the Fort Valley Ecosystem Restoration
Project.

The
following table and narrative summarizes information
from the demonstration plots at Fort Valley that can
be used to predict tree numbers, diameters and basal
areas for areas within the Fort Valley Project. It is
provided to further the understanding of thinning effects
which several individuals commenting on the EA, requested
additional clarification.
A
summary of tree numbers, diameters, and basal areas
for the nine research and demo units (300 acres) are
summarized in the following table. These units are representative
of the conditions at Fort Valley, and can be used to
predict the outcomes for Fort Valley. The "2/4" prescription
is the dominant presettlement thinning density selected
in Alternative B. A "1.5/3" thinning density will occur
in areas of 5 yellow pine or more (compare to unit #10).
The data is from NAU's grid of research plots at the
demo units.
Units
1, 2, and 4 are in a "blackjack" setting, which has
few if any yellow pines remaining, has been precommercially
(0-6 inches dbh) and commercially thinned (6+) several
times over the past 30 years.
Units
5, 6, and 7 are in a relatively unthinned area which
has had most of the yellow pines removed in the last
50 years. These stands contained the classic "doghair"
thickets. They are in the Fort Valley Experimental Forest.
Units
10, 11, and 12 have large numbers of remaining yellow
pines. Little if any thinning of small trees has occurred
in the past. These stands contained the classic "doghair"
thickets. They are in the Fort Valley Experimental Forest.
95%
of the trees removed were 12 inches diameter or less.
2.6 trees per acre over 16 inches diameter were cut
(Fort Valley has a 16 inch cap).
| Unit
# |
Before |
Removed |
After |
Thin
Type |
Trees |
Ave.
Diameter |
Basal
Area |
Trees |
Ave.
Diameter |
Basal
Area |
Trees |
Ave.
Diameter |
Basal
Area |
| 1.5/3 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| #1 |
328 |
9.2 |
173 |
283 |
4.8 |
136 |
76 |
13.5 |
37 |
| #6 |
475 |
5.6 |
142 |
414 |
4.2 |
65 |
60 |
14.5 |
65 |
| #10 |
359 |
6.7 |
140 |
283 |
4.9 |
51 |
76 |
13.5 |
89 |
| 2/4 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| #2 |
338 |
8.8 |
167 |
279 |
7.7 |
118 |
59 |
11.9 |
49 |
| #7 |
663 |
5.1 |
176 |
588 |
3.8 |
94 |
75 |
13.6 |
83 |
| #12 |
810 |
4.1 |
161 |
739 |
3.1 |
59 |
72 |
14.3 |
102 |
| 3/6 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| #4 |
215 |
10 |
144 |
124 |
7.2 |
52 |
91 |
12.9 |
92 |
| #5 |
779 |
4.7 |
163 |
656 |
3.5 |
67 |
123 |
11.1 |
96 |
| #11 |
272 |
7.6 |
135 |
192 |
4.8 |
35 |
80 |
14.2 |
100 |

Comments
and Responses for 342a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, j, q, and
bb
A total of ten groups and or individuals as stated in
Project Record Documents (PRD#342) 342a, b, c, d, e,
f, g, h, j, q and bb supported the project and selection
of Alternative B.
Comment:
PRD #342b asked the question "why don't you get on with
the project"?
Response:
The project must first address public comments and then
we'll have a 45-day appeal period after a decision is
signed. Past appeals and a lawsuit have prevented us
from taking action thus far.
Comment:
PRD #342f asked if we had to burn and could we look
at chipping?
Response:
Burning is an important aspect in the recovery of the
ecosystem. Chipping is very costly and chips laid on
the ground would lessen recovery of the understory vegetation.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342bb
Comment:
The letter requested that revised thinning prescriptions
that might be considered be included in Appendix (8.0).
Response:
All revised thinning prescriptions are attached to this
document.
Comment:
Table of page 115 is confusing. Does no change apply
to all of the empty cells?
Response:
Yes, there is no treatment in mixed conifer and therefore
no change to VSS.
Comment:
"Further emphasis be placed on the value of having a
credible, thorough and documented multi-party evaluation
and monitoring process." " Fire effects on leave tree
mortality and snag retention be more explicitly addressed."
Response:
Phoned Taylor and asked him to get with the Southwest
Forest Alliance, who have the same concern and asked
for them to come up with specifics and get back with
me on their ideas.
Comments
for 342i, m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y and gg
A total of fourteen groups and or individuals as written
in PRD#'s 342i, m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y and
gg voiced similar concerns about the project. All fourteen
letters were similar in content and include information
found in an Action Alert found on the Southwest Forest
Alliance web site. We have summarized the various points
from these letters and respond to them by point rather
than by individual letter to reduce the duplication.
Comment:
".this picture fails to take into account natural ecological
events and dynamics that might have naturally altered
the forest structure since the 1870's."
Response:
Based on previous comments to the EA, we believe you
mean the effects of the 1919 seed crop and other regeneration
events. These are discussed on pages 70-76 of the EA.
Without detailed listing of natural events and dynamics,
we cannot further address this comment.
Comment:
"Furthermore, recreating this frozen-in-time structure
does not necessarily restore the natural processes within
the ecosystem."
Response:
We do not state that we are recreating a "frozen-in-time
structure".
The
Flagstaff urban interface will not be returned to conditions
present in 1876. Rather, the urban interface will be
returned to more normal natural conditions (see pages
11-14 and 29-30 of the EA), under which native biological
diversity has the greatest chance of being sustained
given the continuing impacts of urban populations, global
atmospheric changes, and other modern conditions.
Comment:
The wildlife species that have proliferated in the dense
forest conditions will be severely impacted."
Response:
Direct, indirect and cumulative effects of the restoration
treatments on wildlife are found on pages 85-120 of
the EA. Without listing specific species and effects,
we cannot further respond to your comment.
Comment:
"presettlement model, is much too aggressive in thinning,
drastically reducing structural diversity in the forest."
Response:
The EA addresses the resulting forest structure after
the various presettlement model treatments on pages
18-19 and 72-76. Without details about your concerns
over forest structure, we cannot further respond to
your comment.
Comment:
"The project fails to consider the impacts of such a
drastic timber harvest on forest-dependent wildlife."
Response:
Direct, indirect and cumulative effects of the restoration
treatments on wildlife are found on pages 85-120 of
the EA. Without listing specific species and effects,
we cannot further respond to your comment.
Comment:
"The Forest Service needs to define a strict Wildland-Urban
Interface and to differentiate such areas from forests
that need a general reduction in fire risk.
Response:
The EA has defined the Wildland-Urban Interface (EA
pages 3, 5-6 and 153) and is further defined in the
Cooperative Agreement (PRD#3). This item is further
discussed in the Flagstaff Urban Interface Area Fire
Risk Assessment (PRD#292).
Comment:
"I support a less extreme approach to forest restoration,
such as the Natural Processes Restoration approach supported
by the Southwest Forest Alliance".
Response:
We have included this approach as part of Alternatives
B and D (pages 42-44), and documented why it cannot
be used for the entire project area (page 27).
Comment:
".remove economic incentive to harvest the maximum amount
of timber and largest trees possible."
Response:
This is not a timber sale. Trees thinned are the byproducts
of restoration goals and objectives (EA pages 11-14,
29-30). It is estimated that 90% of the trees removed
are 12 inches diameter or less (EA Page 32, 38 and Project
Record #311). This is not an effort to harvest the "largest
trees possible". Two of the alternatives studied had
a 16 inch cap. The economic impact of this small tree
material and the 16 inch cap is discussed (page 164,
EA).
Comment:
"I fully support the restriction on cutting trees greater
than 16".re-evaluate this limit in light of the proposal
by Forest Service Chief Dombeck for a region-wide restriction
on cutting trees over 12" diameter."
Response:
There is no policy from the Washington Office placing
restrictions on cutting trees over 12" diameter.
Comment:
"longer monitoring period between the two phases of
the Fort Valley project."
Response:
The adaptive management strategies applied in this project
will allow for a longer monitoring period if those developing
the monitoring criteria believe this is necessary. We
encourage you to participate in developing monitoring
criteria.
The
following letters were received with various issues
and concerns about the project PRD# 342ff, dd, ee, cc,
z, k, aa, and hh.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342ff
Comment:
"The proposed project fails to address the affects of
livestock grazing that results in high tree densities
in Ponderosa Pine and invasion of juniper into overgrazed
grasslands".
Response:
Please see pages 7-8, 9 and 14 of the EA. The area has
not been grazed in over 10 years. Most of the project
area is administratively withdrawn from grazing.
There
are no juniper trees or pinyon/juniper habitat types
described in your letter within the project area.
Comment:
"Population survey data needed to determine the maintenance
of minimum viable populations of wildlife is not disclosed."
Response:
Please see pages 20 and 85 of the EA. All of the 36
C.F.R regulations pertain to Forest Level Planning and
do not apply to preparation of an EA. Enclosed is a
copy of the BA&E for this project.
Comment:
"The proposed project fails to disclose the uncertainty
and risk of 'Forest Health' logging treatments designed
to reduce fire hazard. The proposed treatments may not
result in a reduction of fire hazard."
Response:
The concerns you raise with not treating slash are concerns
we share. Please see slash treatment proposals on pages
147-157 and pages 22-28 of the EA. All slash will be
treated. We have read and included most all of the scientific
literature you have provided in our EA, in addition
you might want to look at some of the work of Folliott
et. al (1977), Weaver (1947), Sweezy and Agee (1991),
and the work of Harrington and Sackett whom have several
papers. The complete literature citations are located
in the EA in the references section pages 172-177.
In
addition, The Flagstaff Area Fire Risk Assessment
(Project Record #292) contains numerous discussions
and references about effective thinning to reduce fire
risk. Much of the research that concludes that thinning
was ineffective in reducing fire risk revolves around
leaving slash, removing large fire-resistant trees,
or leaving densities too great to achieve fire reduction
goals. For Fort Valley, slash is treated, large trees
are left, and treatments designed to reduce fire risk
remove small diameter trees (the subject of much criticism).
The
EA discloses the effects of proposed treatments on pages
56-168. Without specific details about which effect
is not disclosed, we cannot further address your comment.
Comment:
"We recommend that thinning treatments be planned that
will remove suppressed and intermediate trees, reducing
crown bulk density and increasing crown base height".
Response:
We agree with your recommendations and encourage further
dialogue on specific alternatives described on pages
29-48 of the EA. As several of the alternatives and
the various thinning treatments proposed in these alternatives
are designed to do exactly what you have recommended.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342dd
Comment:
"Professional Integrity of the Environmental Analysis.
Regrettably, the Fort Valley EA is replete with conclusion
that are foolhardy, at best, and made without any reference
to scientific or other sources relied upon."
Response:
We reviewed each of the examples provided in your letter
and find that in all instances the sentences have been
taken out of context. We recommend a more thorough reading
of previous and subsequent paragraphs to better understand
the effects. The author of the letter attempts to rebut
statements, yet provide no scientific data or research
to support the opposing statements.
In
regard to references and scientific literature please
see pages 172-177 of the EA, there are over 90 references
provided which have been used in the preparation of
this document. We have noted that your letter provides
four scientific references; all of these have been previously
read by Forest Service staff and are documented references
in the EA. It would be in your benefit to provide scientific
analysis or references in support of your statements
as required by 36 CFR Part 215.6(b)(3).
Comment:
"An environmental impact statement must be prepared".
Response:
Please see page 19 of the EA. Your comments on this
matter will be reviewed as we move forward toward a
decision for this project. Please see the Decision Notice
for this project.
Comment:
"The Forest Service has acted in an arbitrary and capricious
manner by rejecting a no commercial harvest alternative".
Response:
Please see page 17, and Section 2.2 pages 22-48 of the
EA. We have analyzed the no action alternative, a prescribed
fire without thinning alternative, a prescribed fire
in combination with thinning by non-commercial logging
methods alternative and leaving a higher residual tree
density, as proposed by the Southwest Forest Alliance
alternative. It would be helpful for your organization
to provide a clear definition for (non-commercial) as
many times you state no harvest as being synonymous
with non-commercial. We developed the noncommercial
alternative with the best information available to us,
as demonstrated in the Project Record.
In
your initial comments to the Fort Valley project (Project
Record #25c) you and the various organizations you have
represented defined a vague definition of noncommercial.
"This project should be designed exclusively as a restoration
program, and not include any commercial timber sale
component. By thinning small diameter trees, lopping,
scattering, and burning the slash on site."
There
is no further input from your organizations until the
first appeal of Fort Valley, which makes absolutely
no mention of noncommercial alternatives or its definition.
Subsequent
response to Fort Valley from your organizations was
appeal #2 (Project Record #264), which simply states
without further definition, "the Forest Service must
formulate a no-harvest alternative that addresses the
restoration needs of the Fort Valley area."
Furthermore,
Project Record #264a documents a phone conversation
between John Gerritsma of the Coconino NF and yourself
in which you again failed to provide details of a noncommercial
alternative.
While
"give-aways" might deal with some of this material,
our experience (and the Flagstaff Fire Department) is
that only material next to roads and easily accessible
is taken. There is also a limit to the amount of such
material that is wanted (see Project Record # 264a).
The
citations you state are the same as appeal point #5
in your second appeal of Fort Valley (Project Record
#264). The Reviewing Officer responded to those comments
(Project Record #271) and subsequently denied your appeal
point.
The
projects you have listed on page 6 of your comments
simply reflect that there are conditions under which
noncommercial thinning will meet project objectives.
However, these projects do not demonstrate that noncommercial
thinning is the only tool required for forest health
restoration. For example, both the Happy Jack Urban
Interface and the Townsend-Winona projects on the Coconino
fit noncommercial methods, because the trees needing
treatment are generally less than 6 inches in diameter,
and removal of trees was for fuels reduction purposes
only, not restoration. This is not the case for most
of Fort Valley (EA, page 32 and Project Record #311).
Goals for Fort Valley include both fuels reduction and
restoration (EA page 15). Still, we have identified
approximately 780 acres to be treated noncommercially
(Minimal Restoration--EA Page, 39).
Comment:
"Cumulative impacts of treatments planned for the entire
urban/wildland interface have not been disclosed."
Response:
Please see pages 3, 57-58 and cumulative effects section
for various resources pages 56-167. The Table of Contents
will assist you in locating the cumulative effects documentation
for the various resources. There are approximately 30
references to cumulative effects. We have articulated
as concisely and accurately as possible on page 57 the
status of future projects in the urban/wildland interface.
Comment:
"The management prescriptions for allocated old growth
are inconsistent with retention and development of old
growth ecosystems".
Response:
Please see page 85 where it is stated that the Fort
Valley project meets all standards and guidelines in
the Forest Plan and meets all monitoring requirements.
See Pages 94-97 of the EA where old growth management
is described and effects of treatments are addressed
by alternative.
Comment:
"Incomplete economic analysis".
Response:
The economic analysis is located on pages 164-167 of
the EA. This project is not a timber sale, therefore
many of the handbook and manual regulations you cite
do not apply to this project.
Page
166-167 of the EA discusses the effects on non-market
goods and services. Comments regarding economic analysis
requirements were the subject of appeal point #9 in
your second Fort Valley appeal (Project Record #264).
The Reviewing Officer responded to those comments (Project
Record #271) and subsequently denied your appeal point.
Without
giving us specific details about which mitigation/monitoring
cost you believe is not included, we cannot further
address your comment.
We
did not include research costs because these activities
are ongoing whether they occur on the Fort Valley site
or other restoration sites around the Southwest. This
project is benefiting from this research, but does not
require it in the mitigation of effects.
The
economics results table on page 164 displays project
costs and benefits in present net value.
Comment:
"The Fort Valley Project will not insure the viability
of species dependent upon closed canopy forests".
Response:
Please see page 20 and 85-120 of the EA.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342ee
Comment:
"Need to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement".
Response:
Please see pages 19 and 57-58 of the EA.
Comment:
". as noted above, however, the defining element in
the Blue Mountains case was the presence of a 'strategy'."
Response:
In the case of the Blue Mountains it appears future
salvage sale areas were already designed . treatments
had been planned, stands delineated, volumes were known
and the future salvage sales had been named. Some type
of comprehensive fire plan had been developed.
Our
situation is very different. As stated in the EA future
projects in the wildland/urban interface have no names,
no prescriptions have been developed for stands, and
we have no idea of where we are treating next or how.
What if the rest of the urban interface is treated with
clearcutting and paving, as has been recommended by
some. This would have differenct affects than using
the Forest Alliance Prescription. Using unevenaged management
across the entire area would have different affects.
It is very possible that future projects will include
some new types of treatments, as we learn from other
projects around the region. We may use some of the same
treatments but at much different proportions and this
would lead to different effects. We will continue to
address cumulative effects, as future treatments for
the rest of the interface are known. Could you please
offer up your suggestion for how to predict the future
and how to conduct a meaningful effects analysis? An
extensive cumulative effects analysis was conducted
for the Coconino Forest Plan and Amendments.
The Fort Valley Project meets all standards and guidelines
in the Forest Plan.
Comment:
" Presettlement Model - It is also extremely troubling
that the Forest Service's has taken a "fast track" approach
to this project, and is now analyzing the entire Fort
Valley 10K rather than the 1,700 acres which was analyzed
during the original NEPA."
Response:
Please see the EA dated December of 1998. The EA analyzed
the same area as analyzed in the July 2000 EA. The Decision
Notice's for the December 1998 EA decided to implement
only Phase 1, or the 1,700 acres.
Comment:
"Presettlement Model - The difference between the "modified"
and "full restoration proposals, however, is minimal.
In fact, this different amounts to, at most, a few more
trees remaining per acre after logging."
Response:
The difference between "full" and "modified" restoration
is substantial. The number of trees is doubled. Table
4 on page 72 predicts the differences in trees per acre,
basal area, and average diameter between full and modified,
and in 20 years and 50 years. Preliminary information
(Project Record #309, #311) clearly indicates substantial
differences in economics and in stand structure. Note
with no action trees reduced by ½ over a 40-year period.
This is from mortality caused by stressed growing conditions.
Over ½ of the trees would die and result in much higher
dead fuel loading which is the reason for the worsening
fire effects described in the EA. See the table at beginning
of document for data from demonstration plots.
Comment:
"Presettlement Model - .stands undergoing "full" restoration
on Mount Trumbell have still crowned out in subsequent
prescribed burns (such occurrences call into serious
question the Forest Service's rejection of suggestions
to consider a prescribed burn only alternative. Despite
the fact that these experiments have been the most extensive
presettlement logging undertaken to date, these questionable
results are not addressed."
Response:
Correspondence with Pete Fule' of Northern Arizona University
involved in the Mount Trumbel project explained the
following. There has been one crowning event, which
occurred this spring. A prescribed fire within one of
the treatment units, became a wildfire when it jumped
a control line and entered a control or untreated block.
The untreated block, which was very dense, similar to
stands at Fort Valley became a crown fire of approximately
10 to 12 acres. Within the areas treated at Mount Trumbel
there have been isolated trees, which have torched,
mainly within oak thickets. Also, there have been a
few old growth trees killed as a result of scorch. There
have been no crown fires within the treated units.
The
10 to 12 acre crown fire in the control block is an
example of why we are not looking at prescribed burning
only for all of the Fort Valley area. Note that there
is a 700 acre stand at Fort Valley where the only treatment
is prescribed burning. Please see EA pages 23-28.
You
may be confusing the effects of burning slash with the
effects that a wildfire would have after the slash has
been treated. Even prescribed burns after thinning in
absence of thinning slash (Fort Valley demo units 1
and 2) may result in some mortality from fire.
Comment:
". Response to the public comments and concerns must
be in the EA or in a appendix to the EA."
Response:
Please see page of 1 of the EA.
Comment:
"16 Inch cap and "Wildland-Urban" Interface - .The 16
inch cap which is proposed must also be evaluated in
light of recent statements by Chief Dombeck that fire
reduction treatments be limited to trees under 12 inches
and that priority be given to high risk areas within
the urban interface."
Response:
Please see page 5 for a list of project objectives,
which are much broader than fire risk reduction. This
is an ecological restoration project and fire reduction
project. There is no direction from our Washington Office
to limit this project with a 12 inch cap.
Discussions
about the 16-inch cap is found on pages 17-18, 46, 54,
89, 96-97, and 164-165. There are no statements on those
pages portraying the 16 inch cap as "political".
Comment:
"Northern goshawk - . within the highly active Orion
and Fort Valley PFAs, the Forest Service should completely
defer any actions."
Response:
Please see pages 7-8 of the EA. The Management Guidelines
for the Northern Goshawk in the Southwestern United
States, recommend treating within foraging areas,
PFAs, and nest stands to meet criteria recommended for
habitat within these areas.
Comment:
"Please address each of the provisions contained in
the enclosed document relating to goshawk requirements."
Response:
A review of the information requested found that all
of the answers to your questions are located in the
EA. Please see pages 85-88, 88-92, and 112-118. We are
making you a map. It is not common policy to disclose
the nesting stands, as goshawk young are taken for falconry
purposes, as you may be aware. Also, keeping these areas
confidential is in the best interest of the birds to
avoid excessive human disturbance.
Comment:
"Management Indicator Species".
Response:
Please see pages 85 and 98-103. The models also give
population trend data. All species showed an increase,
except Abert Squirrels when compared to the no action
alternative.
Comment:
"Roads".
Response:
Pages 158-159 describe the short-term, transient nature
of temporary roads, and the overall goal of reaching
the guideline (not standard) in the Forest Plan for
road density. Page 98-99 discusses roads and their potential
impacts to various wildlife species. The effects of
roads/trails and road closures to various wildlife species
are discussed on pages 101, 104, 109, 110, 116, and
119. Pages 127-131 discuss the impacts of roads and
other actions on soil and water quality, and the use
of Best Management Practices that limits the amount
of sedimentation.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342l
Comment:
"Since retaining smaller trees has been demonstrated
to be crucial for wildlife, and was almost certainly
a part of the structural range of variability, why has
it been relegated to a mere 100 acres in the preferred
Alternative B?."
Response:
Small trees and areas of clumps/stands of smaller trees
will be retained within 4,100 acres of the project.
There are 700 acres of Modified Restoration with 20%
Deferral for Wildlife Management; 780 acres of Minimal
Restoration which will maintain cover within an important
wildlife movement corridor; 530 acres of Dense Tree
Canopy Thinning to promote structure described in the
Management Recommendations for the Northern Goshawk
in the Southwestern United States; 2,090 acres of Deferral
(these are all dense areas with a lot of small trees
in drainages, wildlife cover areas, Mexican spotted
owls PACs). There are also 130 acres of Forest Forever
Prescription and another 130 acres of unevenaged management.
Within all the treatment areas dense clumps of small
trees are grouped adjacent to snags, which have potential
for flammulated owl nesting. Please see pages 37-45
for a detailed description of Alternative B.
Comment:
"There is simply no basis for the successor multiplier
values. Why 1.5 or 2 successor trees? Why not 5, 8 or
10?"
Response:
We are sending some literature from Northern Arizona
University regarding the selection for the multiplier
(PRD #112). We have several demonstrations of various
multipliers completed. The demonstration plots will
study the effects of 1.5/3, 2/4, and 3/6. Research planned
for phase 1 will look at the effects of unevenaged management,
the Forests Forever treatment, a modified version of
the Presettlement 2-4 (different clumping method), and
a "Blend" treatment which has not yet been developed.
There is a team working on the "Blend" and your experience
and opinions about this could be incorporated.
Comment:
"Why isn't the grazing planned for the restoration more
explicitly discussed?"
Response:
Please see pages 14 and 30 of the EA. Very little of
the project area is grazed, most of the area is administratively
withdrawn from grazing. No grazing has occurred in the
area for over 10 years. Future use is expected to be
minimal.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342k
Comment:
"The 16 inch restriction is a political issue more than
an issue of forest health and should be removed."
Response:
Please see pages 17, 46, and 94-97.
Comment:
".road 9002W to remain open."
Response:
You are correct that road 9002W will remain open. Please
see page 160.
Comments
and Responses to PRD#342aa
Comment:
."the Forest Service needs to re-evaluate the cutting
cap for Fort Valley."
Response:
There is no direction or policy from the Washington
Office that limits thinning to 12 inches.
Comment:
Currently, the EA does not specify a 16" cutting cap
in Aspen Restoration.
Response:
We regret the omission. The 16 inch cap includes aspen
units.
Comment:
The EA does not explain why this project was so greatly
expanded from a 1700 acre project in 1998 to the current
9100 acre project.
Response:
Please see the EA dated December of 1998. The EA analyzed
the same area as analyzed in the July 2000 EA. The Decision
Notice's for the December 1998 EA decided to implement
only Phase 1, or the 1,700 acres.
Comment:
"Therefore, the application of this treatment prescription
fails to provide areas, groups, or stands that are structurally
dominated by the younger tree component."
Response:
A discussion of the effects of regeneration pulses and
small trees is found on pages 70-78, including studies
that show a lack of small trees in undisturbed pine
forests (page 73). It is also important to realize that
much of Fort Valley has been thinned in the past, with
many of the small trees occurring "unnaturally" as somewhat
evenly spaced, even-sized, and even-aged.
Small
trees and areas of clumps/stands of smaller trees will
be retained within 4,100 acres of the project. There
are 700 acres of "Modified Restoration with 20% Deferral
for Wildlife Management; 780 acres of Minimal Restoration
which will maintain cover within an important wildlife
movement corridor; 530 acres of Dense Tree Canopy Thinning
to promote structure described in the Management Recommendations
for the Northern Goshawk in the Southwestern United
States; 2,090 acres of Deferral (these are all dense
areas with a lot of small trees in drainages, wildlife
cover areas, Mexican spotted owls PACs). There are also
130 acres of Forest Forever Prescription and additional
130 acres of unevenaged management. Within all the treatment
areas dense clumps of small trees are grouped adjacent
to snags, which have potential for flammulated owl nesting.
Please see pages 37-45 for a detailed description of
Alternative B.
Comment:
The EA and the model itself fail to show that restoring
a particular spatial structure to the forest stands
will restore presettlement functions in today's forests.
Response:
We are not recreating a frozen-in-time structure. The
foundation for ecological restoration at Fort Valley
lies in a primary tenet of conservation biology: that
organisms, communities, and ecological systems have
adapted over evolutionary time to the structures and
processes that they have encountered.
As
one might expect, information derived from past environments
is most easily obtained for the most recent periods
of time. Our understanding of ponderosa pine forests
prior to disturbance is most thorough for the time period
immediately predating Euro-American arrival in Arizona.
Ecosystem conditions and dynamics prior to disturbance
serve as "reference conditions", providing the foundation
upon which restoration goals and objectives are established.
Still
the Flagstaff urban interface will not be returned to
conditions present in 1876. Rather, the urban interface
will be returned to more normal natural conditions (see
pages 11-14, 29-30 and 67-84 of the EA), under which
native biological diversity has the greatest chance
of being sustained given the continuing impacts of urban
populations, global atmospheric changes, and other modern
conditions. Restoration is not really about the past;
it's about the future.
Comment:
".the model itself does not sufficiently take into account
mortality of trees due to harvesting practices, prescribed
fire, or natural mortality."
Response:
Please see pages 68-69 and 76-77 about expected mortality.
Without specific details that you have regarding mortality
in this model, we cannot further address your comment.
Comment:
"The Southwest Forest Alliance questions the appropriateness
of applying these extreme restoration measures."
Response:
See project objectives (EA page 15). This is one of
a number of approaches being tested with substantial
research/monitoring and adaptive management. The merits
or faults of this approach can only be tested on the
ground. The presettlement model is being applied to
about 4,000 acres, not 104,000 acres as you state. Please
see pages 3, 16, 18, and 22-48 of the EA.
You
label the presettlement model as "extreme", yet you
do not mention the various results that are obtained
depending on existing stand conditions. Blocks 2, 5,
and 12 of the Fort Valley demo sites were all thinned
with the 2/4 prescriptions that is proposed for Alternative
B. The visual difference is quite great. While block
2 is decidedly open, block 5 is not. Block 12, with
its component of yellow pines, nowhere near resembles
block 2 or block 5.
The
continued exploitation of blocks 1 and 2 in the various
media as the resulting consequence of the presettlement
model is misleading to the public. Preliminary data
from the demonstration blocks show a big difference
in residual basal areas. For example, the residual basal
area ranged from an average 48 in block 2 to an average
102 in block 5 (Project Record #311). The latter is
high even for intermediate thinning as described in
the Coconino Forest Plan.
Comment:
"This treatment does not provide for interim habitat
for the wildlife".
Response:
Direct, indirect and cumulative effects of restoration
treatments on wildlife are found on pages 85-120 of
the EA. Without listing specific species and effects,
we cannot further respond to your comment.
Comment:
"The treatments of the presettlement model drastically
decrease the age diversity within the forest. The treatment
may also drastically decrease the range of genetic variation
found in the stands."
Response:
There is no data to support either of those contentions.
In fact, results of the Fort Valley demo blocks show
substantial increases in diameter distributions of trees
(diameter relates to age) (Project Record #311). In
addition, the greatest biodiversity is not between ages
of trees, or their sizes, but in the more than 600 species
of understory plants, shrubs, and grasses. The presettlement
model showed significant increases in forest openings.
Comment:
"The minimal restoration treatment.is simply another
prescription of the full restoration treatment."
Response:
The minimal restoration treatment has a 9-inch cap,
is done noncommercially, and is done only around yellow
pines (EA pages 33 and 39). This is significantly different
than the full restoration cut and is much less aggressive
than the Forest Forever prescription.
Comment:
"None of the treatments were successful in achieving
a sufficient degree of groupiness/clumpiness in the
leave trees.
Response:
Please see pages 22 (reference conditions) and page
44(monitoring). Adaptations have been made to achieve
a greater clumpiness since the demo blocks were cut,
EA page 43.
Comment:
"Such trees will not develop full canopies and are probably
much more susceptible to wind-throw".
Response:
It would be very beneficial for you to provide data
to support this statement. Our experience with 40 years
of thinning experiments adjacent to Fort Valley at Taylor
Woods Study site does not support this contention. We
have not experienced any wind throw events at Fort Valley,
which would support your claim.
Comment:
"The EA fails to provide a convincing scientific explanation
of the impacts of such a drastic timber harvest on forest-dependent
wildlife".
Response:
The effects of all the proposed activities are found
in pages 85-120, including the effects on Abert squirrels.
Comment:
"The EA does not provide an adequate analysis of potential
impacts to the Northern Goshawk."
Response:
Pages 112-120 describe the direct, indirect and cumulative
effects to the northern goshawk. Without any description
of the inadequacy of the analysis it is difficult to
further address your comment.
Comment
#15: "However, the EA itself contains inadequate discussion
of how the proposed action impacts replacement nests,
reserve trees, and canopy requirements for each PFA
and Foraging Area."
Response:
Replacement nests are discussed on page 114. We are
unclear what your concern is over reserve trees, but
they are discussed on page 114 as well. Canopy requirements
are discussed on pages 117-118.
Comment:
"The project as it is presented in the EA currently
violates the MRNG that provides minimal protection for
the northern goshawk."
Response:
The Coconino National Forest Plan provides us with standards
and guidelines for management of northern goshawk habitat.
We have met all standards and guidelines as stated on
page 85 of the EA. The Forest Plan (page 65-68) asks
us only to refer to the Management Recommendations for
the Northern Goshawk in the Southwestern United States
(MRNG) for scientific information, not for management
direction. Therefore, we cannot violate the MRNG. Pages
112-120 of the EA explain how we meet the various standards
and guidelines in the Forest Plan and state all canopy
guidelines are met for nesting, foraging and PFA areas.
Comment:
"The EA is incomplete and confusing in its discussion
of the impacts to old growth."
Response:
We have sent you a compartment map and list of old growth
stands as you requested. Page 94 of the EA clearly defines
old growth and its various components. Pages 95-97 explain
the acres being treated (page 95), and the effects about
logging in existing and recruitment old growth (pages
96-97).
Comment
18: "The project needs to be implemented in such a way
that will remove economic incentives to harvest the
maximum timber and largest trees possible."
Response:
This is not a timber sale. Trees thinned are the byproducts
of restoration goals and objectives (EA pages 11-14,
29-30). It is estimated that 90% of the trees are 12
inches diameter or less (EA page 32, 38, and Project
Record #311), indicating that this is not an effort
to remove the "largest trees possible". Two of the alternatives
studied had a 16-inch cap. The economic impact of this
small tree material and the 16-inch cap is discussed
(page 164, EA and Project Record #56a and #309).
Comment:
"The economic analysis of the EA is inadequate."
Response:
See EA, page 164, and Project Record #56a and #309 for
details on trees that could have been available for
harvest above 16 inches diameter. We are unclear how
projected volumes in various diameter ranges improves
the economic analysis. Project record #311 provides
estimates of diameter ranges that can be projected over
the Fort Valley Project.
Comment:
"The EA does not discuss or consider the relationship
of this 9100 acre planning effort to the other nine
projects that are planned for the Flagstaff urban-wildland
interface area, and the 104,000 acres designated around
Flagstaff."
Response:
The relationship between Fort Valley and the Flagstaff
Urban Interface is explained on page 3 of the EA. Cumulative
effects are explained on pages 56-58 of the EA.
Comment:
"The Forest Service needs to explicitly designate an
adequately long monitoring period between the two phases
of the Fort Valley project, and before implementing
the next project".
Response:
We agree that not all the answers will be available
to us after just one growing season between phases.
This is acknowledged in the EA (page 49-55). Adaptive
management strategies will allow for additional monitoring
time if those participating in the monitoring feel more
time is needed. Since you did not provide specific monitoring
time frames based on specific concerns, we cannot further
address a longer implementation break.
Forest
health conditions are worsening, the forest continues
to grow at high rates worsening fuel loading and impacts
to old growth and the understory, and predictions for
a drier climate are important factors that tempers our
ability to wait with forest restoration. Currently,
the Coconino National Forest burns more than 3,000 acres
annually, much of it catastrophically. The 2000 fire
season is a taste of things to come, and follows only
4 years after 1996, another extreme fire season. That
is why we have a thoughtful monitoring plan associated
with this project as well as adaptive management provisions
(EA, pages 42-45).
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